We wish everyone a prosperous and happy new year.

Thanks

Gro-Pro

A while back (8/6/2009) we put together a post about why Auto accessory Store & Mimousa do not use their own “as they say” great design and seo ranking shopping cart that they are selling off  like hot cakes to people (life span is 3 months when you join and pay them btw). Here is the post we did please read it. Why they dont use there own technology?

The point of this post is to make you aware as of today 11/24/2009 they still are not using there own shopping cart, but that they are converting you to use it… so what we see going on now besides the obvious scam is that mimousa is running the brand “mimousa” under the new name   YARKUZA? This may be due to the negative actions of the brand name mimousa? or they just do not have any confidence in their shopping cart to switch it over?

This site has the same phone number, address and of course the same cookie cutter design thats out there 1000 times over. But this is just our observation.

JUST AN OPINION HERE BUT WE THINK THAT THE MIMOUSA BRAND, MANUFACTURING IS ALL ABOUT  TRADE MARK INFRINGEMENT, DESIGN HI-JACKING AND COPYWRITE THEFT TO SELL OTHER COMPANY ITEMS  UNDER THEIR BRAND NAME AND PROFIT FROM IT….. PUT A STICKER ON IT AND IN A NEW BOX AND ITS OURS?

The above statement “life span is 3 months when you join and pay them” read this post for more details then calculate how much $$$ MONEY $$$$ you want to waste on this…..THEN JOIN OUR FORUM.

THANKS

Keystone has a great reputation, #1 wholesale aftermarket auto parts distributor with live inventory from your account user panel, Fast shipping & great pricing. They handle things like a business should be. No Gimmicks, Delays or Lies. (mimo) We have provided some information for your use. commenting is in our forum

About Keystone Automotive Operations, Inc., based in Exeter, Pennsylvania is the leading distributor and marketer of specialty automotive equipment and accessories in North America. During Keystone’s 38-year history, we have grown from a single auto parts store to a $600MM warehouse distributor.

Service and Reach… Keystone serves the diverse interests and needs of auto enthusiasts and their installers across North America. We have 25 locations serving over 17,000 customers in North America. Keystone offers the largest assortment of specialty products in the automotive aftermarket industry including 250,000+ SKUs from over 600 suppliers.

The Company operates four distribution centers and 21 non-inventory stocking cross-docks in the United States and Canada.  Our fulfillment network utilizes 300 trucks/trailers providing next-day or two day delivery to customers in 47 states and Canada, as well as exporting to more than 40 countries.

Keystone warehouse operations pick, pull, and pack around the clock to ensure timely product delivery. Our truck drivers cover 30 million miles per year in order to see those orders delivered on time to our customers.

Customers and Vendors… Both customers and vendors are integral to Keystone’s success. We are a critical link between a highly fragmented group of vendors and an even more fragmented base of customers. Our geographic reach and unique distribution model allow us to offer customers and vendors substantial scale, the most comprehensive inventory selection in our industry, high levels of customer service, and innovative marketing support.

Wholesale Drop Ship Auto Parts Solution:

Providing Solutions to Grow Your Business. Keystone Automotive Operations offers drop shipping as a service via eKeystone.com.  With this program, select jobbers (credit approval and a minimum monthly commitment are required) can place orders online using eKeystone.com and have the product delivered directly to the Consumer.

This service has the following features:

• A customized packing slip with the jobber’s name, address, phone number and logo
• Itemized billing detailing each shipment separately
• FedEx shipping history including tracking numbers
• Shipment notification via e-mail to both the jobber and end consumer
• A choice of FedEx shipping options including shipping rates
• A return form in every shipment to facilitate the return process
• A cancellation notification to the jobber via e-mail
Frequently Asked Questions

How does the program work?
A Keystone Automotive Jobber goes online with eKeystone.com and places an order online, entering the Consumers shipping information.  Keystone then processes the order and ships it via FedEx to the Consumer and bills the Jobber for the cost of the part and shipping.

How does a Jobber sign up for the program?
Your web site must be approved by Keystone. Requirements include: Keystone product prominently displayed, a shopping cart and checkout process. Non-Keystone Jobbers must fill out an application for an account with Keystone. Existing Jobbers with an application on file will be fast tracked and set up with a “Drop Ship Only” account number. 
A Keystone Drop Shipping sales representative will then contact you to obtain account information and/or graphics for your customize packing slip. We’ll then set up or copy discounts for your newly activated account and then e-mail you your new Drop Ship account number, user name, password, as well as pertinent Keystone contact information.  You then be assigned a Drop Shipping sales representative who will contact you within 24 hours of the aforementioned email to review the program, discounts and product.

 Does a Jobber require a Weekly or Monthly payment term to Qualify?
Qualifying Jobbers must have one of the following Payment Terms for Drop Shipping: Monthly charge – weekly Charge – credit card.
Is there a commitment for the Drop shipping program?
A qualifying Jobber must agree to a minimum monthly transaction agreement of $3,000 or more.  Effective January 15th 2008 you will incur a $49.00 monthly Ekeystone maintenance fee if you do not meet the $3,000 monthly commitment in net Dropship sales.

Is there a daily order minimum the Jobber must meet?
Drop Ship Jobbers are not required to meet a daily order minimum. Every order will be processed and shipped as long as it is in stock and is FedEx-able or able to ship via Truck Freight (standard truck freight fees apply).

What paperwork is contained in a package?
Every package contains custom packing slip (not including pricing) and a return form that is printed on the reverse side of the packing slip for a possible return.

Does Keystone’s name appear on any of the documents or labels?
Keystone’s name does not appear on the packing slip, the package label, or the return form.  The return forms only lists an anonymous ‘Product Returns’ address.  The packing slip only has the Drop Ship Jobbers information on it.

What shipping options are available?
Currently FedEx 3-Day Express Saver, Ground, Priority Overnight, Standard Overnight, 2nd Day, Saturday and LTL delivery are all available online for Drop Ship Jobbers only. 

Are there products that will not ship via FedEx?
Oversized items (such as one-piece grill guards) may be too large to ship via FedEx and we also will not ship any chemical items in accordance with Keystone’s current policy.

How does the Jobber obtain FedEx tracking information?
FedEx tracking information is available online with eKeystone.com in the Jobbers Order History approx 24-48 hrs after the order is placed.

How does the Jobber know when an item is not shipped?
The Drop Ship Jobber is emailed a cancellation file if the order is cancelled at the warehouse level.  On orders shipping from Kansas City, the order will show up on the daily freight manifest with no associated tracking information.

How does the Jobber process a return?
There is an email box specifically used for drop ship returns. This mailbox is monitored daily by a member of our team, who coordinates the return with the jobber.

When are orders processed and shipped?
All orders are picked and shipped the same day as long as they are placed by 3pm, warehouse local time.

Can I ship products to Canada?
Yes, we are pleased to announce effective November 6, 2006 that Keystone Automotive will begin our exclusive Canadian Shipping program for Drop Ship customers. Ask your Keystone sales representative for specific terms and conditions or log onto eKeystone.com for additional details.

For more information or to have an account setup, please call: 800.272.4247

e-Commerce New Business Development 
Keystone Automotive Operations
800.272.4247

Note: If you are currently in Gro Project Venture or using Shopping Cart Elite you are required to use ONLY the Certified Distributors Within.The problem in that is their are to many hands in it ($$$) and your discounts are not that great. This will effect your overall NET Profit. See this post where it explains some Gross/Net numbers.

Below is the copied text of a sales ad for Shopping cart elite from Craigslist.org. I see this add all over the country and I am curious how many of you got sucked in by this ad? It shows that this is an unbeatable deal, you must not pass it up, what you’re going to get, and how cheap it sounds. The reality is, it is a dream being sold to you. Like most craigslist.org frauds they prey on the people that do not know and are looking for that next BIG thing out there. Gro Project Venture, Mimousa, Setuno inc  and Shopping cart elite is not the answer to your prayers. Below I will break down all the text with red fonts to explain what is real or not. We have 4 images copied from this craigslist.org ad for you to see. THE AD WILL MOST LIKELY CHANGE AFTER THIS BLOG POST IS OUT THERE. You can also comment in OUR FORUM on this subject as well as all the others that are there. Plus you get freebies about shopping carts, SEO, LPO, SEM and social networking as they evolve from members. Its Free to join and there are no ads anywhere. Enjoy the reading below.

HERE IS THE URL TO AD ON CRAIGSLIST: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bfs/1272117471.html

“Contact us now: (800)403-8117 to speak about your options
OUR 30 SECOND SALES PITCH
Includes website design (no logo) and training”   THE DESIGN IS COOKIE CUTTER TEMPLATE LIKE THE REST OF THEM, THE LOGO IS AN EXTRA FEE. $$$
“All products will be drop shipped, you will not stock anything. The supplier will ship directly to your customers. “
“Buy Now and we will contact you within 24 hours to start your business! We will execute your business plan 100% to your satisfaction.”  THEY HOPE YOU ARE NOT PICKY & HAVE A LOW SATISFACTION LEVEL
“30 days money back guaranteed if you are not satisfied with our service or business plan. YOU HAVE NO RISK, WE GUARANTEE IT .”  30 DAYS FROM NOW YOU WILL BE IN TRAINING CLASSES THAT ARE 3 MONTHS LONG SO THERE GOES THE MONEY BACK GAURENTEE
“State of the art Shopping Cart Elite software is used to operate this website .” STILL IN DEVELOPMENT AND PRE BETA STAGES MAY NOT BE PCI COMPLIANT
“Build a loyal customer base that will buy your products on a constant basis
Recurring Hosting and License Fee from Shopping Cart Elite (www.shoppingcartelite.com) is $99 per month”  SO YOU HAVE A FEE OF $299 + $99X12 = $1487.00? PLUS A LOGO FEE THAT IS NOT SPECIFIED. SEEMS A BIT HIGH FOR 1 SITE. ASK ABOUT THE 5 SITES OFFER FOR $1200 COMPLETE WITH LOGO AND EXTRA FEES
“Short Term revenue potential ranges from $100,000USD – $400,000USD annually depending on the conversions.”  ASK FOR 3 VERIFIABLE REFERENCES. DEPENDING ON CONVERSIONS? SO THE REALITY IS, YOU NEED TO MAKE MONTHLY GROSS SALES BETWEEN $8,333.33 & $33,333.33 AND DAILY BETWEEN $277.76 & $1,111.10 NOW I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NOT POSSIBLE BUT THIS WOULD BE 1-2 YEARS FROM NOW. ASK THEM TO SHOW YOU ANY SITE ON THEIR PLATFORM PERFORMING AT THIS LEVEL.

Profit Margins 8% – 30% on brand name products, 16% – 50% on non-popular brand name and private labeled products  TAKE THE ABOVE “POTENTIAL GROSS SALES” NUMBERS AND DO THE MATH 8%-50%?. YOUR REALISTIC DAILY NET INCOME IS ONLY GOING TO BE 5% TO 10% AFTER ALL THE FEES AND GARBAGE IS ADDED ON. SO HOW MUCH ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR? $13.85 TO $55.55 PER DAY!

QUICK OVERVIEW
eCommerce retailers are entrepreneurs who deal with distributors or manufacturers to retail products to the end consumers on the Internet. Niche market retailer is when an entrepreneur starts a dedicated website specializing in a specific target market. Using a specific domain name and our specific business plan, as a retailer you will target a specific group of people and win their business. As a niche market retailer you will rank above your competitors (if any) and dominate the market share for your niche.  THERE IS COMPETITION AND PLENTY OF IT JUST WITHIN GRO PROJECT. THEIR 6 “BODY KIT” SITES 4-6 “AIR INTAKE” SITES WHO KNOWS HOW MANY DASH TRIM AND STEERING WHEEL COVER SITES. AS YOU GET INVOLVED IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR YOU WHEN YOU REALIZE THE COMPITITION. AS FOR NON RELATED GRO PROJECT SITES YOU WILL ONLY GAIN A PERCENTAGE OF THAT CUSTOMER BASE “NOT DOMINATE” IT.  

Selecting a niche has to be a smart decision because you may not have a supplier, best price, competitiveness, etc. This is why we offer you this package to help you make your decision and execute your business plan. THIS IS ALL PREDETERMENED WITHIN GRO PROJECT ALREADY.

WHAT DO YOU GET?

An exclusive website for a particular niche, after the sale we will not sell another website for that niche
COMPLETE DESIGN AND WALK THROUGH OF THE SHOPPING CART ELITE SOFTWARE (www.shoppingcartelite.com)
Suppliers who will drop ship the products for you (Learn what Drop Shipping is) OVERALL THIS IS MIMO USA RELATED SUPPLIERS & CAN ONLY PURCHASE FROM THEM.
A business plan that will take you from startup to a successful company
One click full data pre-load on your website.
CASE STUDIES

custommaxima.com case study Case study about a niche car market  I WILL POST ABOUT THESE SITES AND THERE CASE STUDIES ANOTHER TIME, BUT IT IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS

remusexhaustshop.com case study Case study about a niche brand market  NOT OPERATING ON THEIR PLATFORM.

CRITICAL REQUIREMENTS WE ADDRESS

Shopping Cart Elite was specifically designed for retailers to have a smooth time running their online business. See all the Shopping Cart Elite Features
Advanced SEO technology (shopping cart) in which you can be fully confident that it will deliver traffic to your website
Sophisticated back office to manage products on your website in an advanced format (such as products with options or products mapped to a car application, etc.)
Back office that does order managements, order tracking, returns, accounting, etc.
Data for your store (automatically synced with your store)
Suppliers who will give you data and discounts
User friendly website functionality with an excellent website design
Long Term Potential:

Getting involved in wholesale and becoming a certified Supplier to the Shopping Cart Elite community, revenue potential ranges from $400,000USD – $1,000,000USD annually and building a network of sites concentrated towards the same market place and dominate the market share. NEED I BOTHER ON THIS ONE? YOU GET THE IDEA HERE.

SUPPLIER LIST

www.mimousa.com

www.streamlineddropship.com

www.norcaldropship.com  THE 3 ABOVE ARE CONTROLLED AND PROFITED BY MIMO USA

www.turn14.com  THIS ONE IS AN INDEPENDENT DISTRIBUTOR THAT MIMO BUYS FROM WWW.JSCSPEED.COM

A FEW WEBSITES THAT WE HELPED START

www.300zxtuner.com

www.bodykitexpert.com

www.hhraccessory.com

www.f150mania.com

WHY SO CHEAP FOR SUCH A PROFITABLE BUSINESS?  BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD LIKE MOST SCAMS OUT THERE?

The business needs to expand. It’s a brand new store with a design, data and suppliers. You own the business but you don’t own the Shopping Cart Elite source code or software. You will be licensing the software and hosting your business from Shopping Cart Elite directly. The onetime fee that you are paying is for the website design, product data, business plan and supplier referral only.

The website will be valued 10 – 20 times more than what we are selling it for after a client spends 2-4 months working on it. ASK FOR THE BASIS OF THIS ESTIMATE WITH SUPPORTING VERIFIABLE EXAMPLES Certainly we can do all of the work ourselves, however we are not machines and can’t do everything. We own several successful businesses and we are now concentrated on technology and education, not product selling or customer service. BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS PROFIABLE AND EASY AS THEY SAY Thus we are willing to teach you how to operate this business and gain you as a client for us and Shopping Cart Elite.

WHAT YOU DON’T GET!

This is not a get rich quick scheme. This will require a minimum of 10-20 hours of work per week for a minimum period of 2 months before seeing results. It will take 4-6 months to see sufficient revenue from this business. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT? 10-20 TIMES MORE VALUED IN 2-4 MONTHS? CONTRADICTIONS NOW?
This is not a scheme, LIES where we sell you an online website that does not work just for the sake of making a few hundred dollars. We are an agent for Shopping Cart Elite MLM and our goal is to make you a successful company. If we sign you up and you quit in 2 months than we will fail at what we are doing.  BUT WILL NOT REFUND YOUR MONEY & ANOTHER PERSON WILL PICK UP FROM THE WORK YOU DID We want you to make money and succeed, so DON’T CONSIDER THIS A ONE TIME SALE. We will do everything in our power to get you to succeed, until you do succeed.

THIS WHOLE THING IS CALLED “SITE BUILDERS” “MLM” IT IS A SCHEME TO TARGET YOU ON PURCHASING A COMPLETED WEBSTORE SITE. WHILE YOU ARE BEING TRAINED YOU WILL REALIZE YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO REBUILD THE STORE YOU JUST PAID FOR AND PAY EVERY MONTH FOR.  IT WAS PUT TOGETHER QUICKLY BY PEOPLE LIKE YOUR SELF AS A WAY TO KEEP MEMBERS GOING THAT ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY AT THIS TIME. ITS NOT REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU STAY.

Thanks, Good Luck from Gro-Pro  

Porn Comes to GRO 

Unbelievable! Who is the Brains on this? The Aftermarket Car Accessory Market is now in competition with the PORN industry. Basically if you are using shopping cart elite software to sell aftermarket car accessories, performance car parts, wholesale automotive car parts distributor or plan on taking the chance on the site builder program and franchise you are all using the same cookie cutter eCommerce template. There are a lot better targets to go after then this one. Was anyone thinking here? Besides the Board of Directors & the accountant.

On a funny note:

The GRO Project Venture training classes should be interesting on this subject. Keyword research, persona/sales copy,  article marketing and social networking should go real well. Who’s the freak mentor that has to show them these webex training class meetings?  I could just wonder who is the “gro certified distributor” That has to prepare and enter the data.

All the religious folks are going to love this.

Look at the images, we didn’t want to copy and use this text on our Blog. Commenting is in OUR FORUM

Thanks & Good Luck, Gro-Pro

Here are definitions of typical terms ( Glossary ) used in the Wholesale Distribution Business. When you call a wholesaler or manufacturer you will need to know where and how your cost on items are applied from so you can be competitive and profitable in sales. We will supply you a complete list of Aftermarket Car Accessories, Automotive Performance Car Parts, Wholesale Distributors and Aftermarket parts Manufacturers for your own use. This will make your life simple when searching for a place to buy your inventory why have it hidden out of your reach and have to pay money to join GRO Project to get it. (stay tuned for the list only in OUR FORUM )

Glossary:

MSRP – Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (Mfg can only suggest a retail price by law)

Jobber – Base retailer price or cost (your local auto parts store was the original Jobber) Generally 30% off MSRP is how many Manufacturers set Jobber price but there is no standard. Discounts “off Jobber” were intended to be a reward system for higher retailer sales volume. Discount percentages vary by mfg so don’t be concerned too much with vast differences. Jobber price today is, in most cases, the street price on the internet.

MAP – Minimum Advertising Price (sometimes called Manufacturer Absolute Price) Manufacturers set what the lowest “market price” or street price can be and violators of policy can lose line buying privileges. Legal as long as it is applied and enforced equally in the market (is not price fixing).

Market Price – advertised web price or “Street Price” is typically competitive fair market value, and is usually the same as the Jobber price. MSRP is rarely considered market price unless the manufacturer set the MAP Price at MSRP. Fair market value of some products is controlled by supply and demand. If the manufacturer does not control the market price by applying a MAP, then anyone can sell the products at whatever price they want ranging from below Jobber or even above MSRP.

Dealer (Retailer) – Is a retailer who sells to the end consumer. Dealer price is usually a price that the distributor charges a retailer. It is designed so that the retailer or dealer can still mark-up the product and make a profit. This price is typically some percentage discount from either the MSRP or the Jobber price.

Distributor – Is a discount for a stocking distributor that sells to retailers (IE: Carquest, NAPA stores) Distributors may also have a retail operation under the same company name. If a retailer has a good discount with their supplier than a retailer can become both a retailer and a distributor selling both retail to end consumers and wholesale to other retailers.

Wholesale Distributor – Also referred as WD, is an additional discount for a stocking distributor that sells to other smaller distributors and retailers (generally a medium size warehouse)

Master Wholesale Distributor – Also referred as MWD, is an additional discount beyond the WD discount for master wholesale distributors that distribute to resellers and often sells to other wholesale distributors (National warehouses)

Buy-in – a sizeable stocking order to earn a deeper discounts on product lines

Thanks – Gro-Pro

The Following is some explanation to what you may have gotten involved with or may be deciding as it applies to the GRO Project. We will break down what was actually copied from the Shopping Cart Elite Webstesite and comment IN CAPS along the way. Visit and join our Forum to post related items. Speak your mind. All images, posts & member comments related are there for viewing as well.

Part Three of a series.

GRO Project Mission:

( BEFORE I GO FURTHER THERE IS THE WORD “GRO” AND ITS MEANING  “Get Rich Online”  “GRO” GET IT? THIS IS NOT INTENDID FOR USERS LIKE YOURSELF IT IS PART OF A BIG OVERALL SCHEME OF HOW GRO PROJECT WORKS. THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED LATER. )

Mission for Retailers – Fulfill the technology gap between the average online entrepreneur and Programming (IT) tasks. By providing one on one training and state of the art software technology through Shopping Cart Elite, ( THAT IS STILL IN “PRE DEVELOPMENT” “PRE BETA” STAGES ) GRO Project will become the only solution where an average online entrepreneur can earn more money than an average American. ( A NONSENSE STATEMENT, MORE FICTICOUS NON CONFIRMED #’S )

Mission for Manufactures – Allow manufactures ( ARE ANY SIGNED UP? MAYBE A FEW, BUT THEY ARE ONTO THIS GAME AND MIMOUSA ) the ability to sell their products through thousands of retailers and target millions of end consumers through one portal, GRO Project. The products will be exposed to 90% of the internet (Google, Yahoo, MSN, eBay, Amazon, etc.) which will allow manufacturers to cut their marketing budget and concentrate on providing new and better quality products.

Mission for Distributors – Allow distributors ( AGAIN, ARE ANY SIGNED UP? MAYBE A FEW, BUT THEY ARE ONTO THIS AS WELL ) the ability to sell their inventory through thousands of retailers and target millions of end consumers through one portal, GRO Project. By concentrating on moving the stock inventory only, will ensure that the distributor always has a running cash flow.

Data Sharing Portal – To create a central network where manufactures cooperate with online distributors, drop shippers and retailers for sharing data and live inventory between each other. ( DATA! BE CAUSIOUS HERE WHEN USING IT. IT WAS SCRAPED, STOLEN, PARSED AND RIPPED OFF FROM OTHER SITES THAT ACTUALLY DID THERE OWN DATA AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THEMSELVES. IT’S NICE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE FOR ”FREE HELP” WITHIN THE GRO PROJECT )

Below is the consistant stories from people we come accross that have been down this path or are still trying to do so…ENJOY Reading.  :)

You are in search of the “next big thing” correct? You stumble upon in your Google search “gro project” online business opportunity, instant success, turnkey website, automated income etc. I could go on and on….. or  you are already involved in the aftermarket car accessories and performance car parts sales on ebay, amazon, or your own website. You are looking for a distributor to buy from. A search on google gives you mimousa. Wholesale dropshipper of car parts. WOW what a score, that’s what I need. Poof you call and sign up. You think, your in, got it good now. Based on a conversation with a representative you got you think Let me list a load of products up on ebay now…….tic toc tic toc. You may make some sales but of course now comes the ordering and shipping. Tic toc tic toc the ebay customer emailing you relentlessly “where is my item” you call multiple times “your score” and woooops 10, 15 or maybe 20 days later after the arguments, the negative feed back, the paypal chargeback and you are fully aggravated. What do you do? Naturally you get back on the phone again with the “score” and explain what happened. This all sound familiar yet? If not your lying!

Now you get offered more hope on what is called “GROProject” you get shown a few sites, some seo, etc, sounds like a dream WOW first page of google, my own site, discounted distributors that cant be beat, and only if I join this now, today for limited time only just for me? Wow.  (the dream) You Shell Out $1200.00 – $8000.00 and stop ebay, amazon, maybe your half built website and whatever other ventures and hopes you may have had.

You now join the GROPROJECT, get setup in a class, rearrange your whole life, start some training, ask a million questions to the mentor you get, not realizing how much time you will actually spend doing this until later, maybe 30 days and – BAM!!!! here comes the agreement. You read 30 plus pages and of course being more confused and disillusioned then before,  you sit back and wonder whats going on? What did I get into? Its going to take me a year to learn this stuff. You naturally question all 30 plus pages of the agreement (a well paid attourney wrote it) to your mentor who has diffused the same questions 100 times and is trained to keep you motivated and stay in the program. You ponder this whole thing and You sign the agreement (without your lawyer reading it because your still hoping) and mail it. You then wonder a few months into this venture where is my agreement? What am I doing? I have not made any money yet. I spend 10 hrs a day on this. I should have kept my website, ebay, amazon etc. but now its to late. Eventually you just give up on all the “online” activities and walk away losing your money, time and drive. Hopefully you are not so behind with your bills to have to go bankrupt from the vision you got sold on.

Now maybe all of the above didn’t happened as stated to you, it is related to you in some way. It is 13 months since the gro project classess started. A lot of good people have left and gotten burned from this and in noway want to return. The sites are currently 50% functional; The data is a year old and out of date and never has been completed to date (thanks to overseas india cheap help). The shopping cart has a million issues,  is pre beta testing and not pci compliant. The servers are sitting in a backroom in staten island n.y. in on a shelf. Not in a data center secured as promised. All located on the same ip address sharing the same ssl certificate. Plus 100 other issues we can post later.

 What are you looking for? You can pickup the pieces and vent here in our FORUM, you are not alone. We can all help out and give advice. GRO PROJECT reality is a year away from now. Theres no need on waiting for “THE WHEEL” to be reinvented here.

Thanks, There is More To Come. From Gro-Pro