GroProject Scam – The Opinions & Views of Past & Present Users

A while back (8/6/2009) we put together a post about why Auto accessory Store & Mimousa do not use their own “as they say” great design and seo ranking shopping cart that they are selling off  like hot cakes to people (life span is 3 months when you join and pay them btw). Here is the post we did please read it. Why they dont use there own technology?

The point of this post is to make you aware as of today 11/24/2009 they still are not using there own shopping cart, but that they are converting you to use it… so what we see going on now besides the obvious scam is that mimousa is running the brand “mimousa” under the new name   YARKUZA? This may be due to the negative actions of the brand name mimousa? or they just do not have any confidence in their shopping cart to switch it over?

This site has the same phone number, address and of course the same cookie cutter design thats out there 1000 times over. But this is just our observation.

JUST AN OPINION HERE BUT WE THINK THAT THE MIMOUSA BRAND, MANUFACTURING IS ALL ABOUT  TRADE MARK INFRINGEMENT, DESIGN HI-JACKING AND COPYWRITE THEFT TO SELL OTHER COMPANY ITEMS  UNDER THEIR BRAND NAME AND PROFIT FROM IT….. PUT A STICKER ON IT AND IN A NEW BOX AND ITS OURS?

The above statement “life span is 3 months when you join and pay them” read this post for more details then calculate how much $$$ MONEY $$$$ you want to waste on this…..THEN JOIN OUR FORUM.

THANKS

Is Shopping Cart Elite compliant? Ask for the results. It is your responsibility as a business owner to know.

The Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard is a worldwide information security standard assembled by the Payment Card Industry Security Standards Council (PCI SSC). The standard was created to help organizations that process card payments prevent credit card fraud through increased controls around data and its exposure to compromise. The standard applies to all organizations which hold, process, or pass cardholder information from any card branded with the logo of one of the card brands.

Validation of compliance can be performed either internally or externally, depending on the volume of card transactions the organization is handling, but regardless of the size of the organization, compliance must be assessed annually. Organizations handling large volumes of transactions must have their compliance assessed by an independent assessor known as a Qualified Security Assessor (QSA), while companies handling smaller volumes have the option of self-certification via a Self-Assessment Questionnaire (SAQ). In some regions these SAQs still require signoff by a QSA for submission.

Enforcement of compliance is done by the bodies holding relationships with the in-scope organizations. Thus, for organizations processing Visa or Mastercard transactions, compliance is enforced by the organization’s acquirer, while organizations handling American Express transactions will deal directly with American Express for the purposes of compliance. In the case of third party suppliers such as hosting companies who have business relationships with in-scope organizations, enforcement of compliance falls to the in-scope company, as neither the acquirers nor the card brands will have appropriate contractual relationships in place to mandate compliance. Non-compliant companies who maintain a relationship with one or more of the card brands, either directly or through an acquirer risk losing their ability to process credit card payments and being audited and/or fined.

You had a long day at work?  Sit in traffic on the way home?  Worry  about life and money? You finally make it home to the family and sit down for dinner going over everyones day and have a nice time. Then during this precious time the telephone rings and you get up to answer this interuption……………..to find out it is some IDIOT Pitching a Business proposition that you can not pass up on “one time only” “today only” yata yata yata….and all the other promises proposed for only?????? $$$$$$$

This is the present ongoing problem that setuno inc, shopping cart elite and gro project venture have become… “TELEMARKETERS”  — yes, those annoying never ending losers that got your home number or cell and always know the wrong time to call you.  BEWARE OF THIS SCAM – FRAUD – RIPOFF being offered to you.

Telemarketing has been negatively associated with various scams and frauds, such as pyramid schemes, and with deceptively overpriced products and services. Fraudulent telemarketing companies are frequently referred to as “telemarketing boiler rooms” or simply “boiler rooms.” Telemarketing is often criticized as an unethical business practice due to the perception of high-pressure sales techniques during unsolicited calls. Telemarketers marketing telephone companies may participate in telephone slamming, the practice of switching a customer’s telephone service without their knowledge or authorization.

Telemarketing calls are often considered an annoyance, especially when they occur during the dinner hour, early in the morning, or late in the evening.

A recent trend in telemarketing is to use automated messages in a sales pitch. These often include intentionally deceptive tactics, with computer recorded messages saying things like “Don’t panic but this is your final notice” or “We have already attempted to contact you through the mail.” These messages are often outright lies, intended to incite concern or fear in the potential customer.

Work-at-home and telecommuting scams are common. Some of these job offers are scams appealing to a “get rich quick” audience but in fact require an investment up front with no pay off at the end. The problem is so pervasive that in 2006 the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) established Project False Hopes, a federal and state law enforcement sweep that targets bogus business opportunity and work at home scams. The crackdown involved more than 100 law enforcement actions by the FTC, the Department of Justice, the United States Postal Inspection Service, and law enforcement agencies in 11 states. In four of the new FTC cases alone, consumers lost more than $30 million. “Bogus business opportunities trample on Americans’ dreams of financial independence,” said FTC Chairman Deborah Platt Majoras. “If a business opportunity promises no risk, little effort, and big profits, it almost certainly is a scam. These scams offer only a money pit, where no matter how much time and money is invested, consumers never achieve the riches and financial freedom promised.

The FBI warned of such scams on February of 2009, as well.

Of the 3 million+ web entries that surface from a search on the terms “work at home,” over 95% of the results are scams, links to scams, or other dead ends. Work at home scams earn over $500 million a year. Home business scams account for another $250 million/year. Even the sites that claim to be scam-free, often feature ads that link to scams.

According to Christine Durst, there is a 48-to-1 scam ratio among work at home job leads on the internet. This statistic has been used in coverage by Good Morning America, CNN, Business Week, and The Wall Street Journal.

Thanks Gro-Pro

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STAY ALERT —–:)

Soon we will put together all the information on how Setuno, Gro Project Venture, Shopping Cart Elite & all related are really not protecting the security of customer information for your Business. This could become a liability on you and your business. Is this the risk you are willing to take? Do you want to be responsible for Identity Theft of your Customers? or Even more “LAWSUITS”?

Good Luck,

Gro-Pro

We see that the management (kids) of shopping cart elite and gro project venture are still learning things. Mostly how to not protect their servers from crashing or just blowing up. Take a thought about “customer” information, What is going on there? Identity Theft?

Makes you wonder?

As we look at our email inbox of the same questions from past and current mimousa, setuno, shopping cart elite, gro project venture, members we see how big this scam, ripoff, fraud, mlm has grown. They are just stealing money from you…….

Stay tuned for more……….. 

Ecommerce Shopping Cart Fraud ALERT BEWARE of your Email inbox with offers, GET RICH QUICK Scam, visit http://www.groprojectscam.com Stay Updated

As we look around at many Ecommerce shopping carts and different types of businesses on the web, it is funny that usually the companies that develop technology usually use it for themselves as a marketing point and to display it to the potential customers that they are confident in their technology or products.

Far from this in the case of Mimousa and Auto Accessory Store. In some recent post’s in our FORUM we have noticed a particular thread that discusses them NOT USING the Shopping Cart Elite technology. Their reason is “everyone else will suffer”. This seems to be an excuse as they do not have enough confidence in what they offer to their potential customers. It may be good enough for the general public (you) they are selling this turnkey business too and take money from but not use it themselves?. This would be like the Owners & developers from CRE Loaded, Magento and OScommerce not using their own Shopping Cart Technology that they spend countless hours developing. We have linked to the above Ecommerce Shopping Carts to their FORUMS for your own Analysis, Questions and Views.

There is much hype from the sales and marketing team from the company (setuno inc) about what this cart can do, how supposedly great it is, perfect for conversions, seo, the data, the back office tools, functions, automation, design, how much money your going to make from it and the rest of the technology, (plus how they state they figured the perfect algorithms  for ranking from google, yahoo and bing)  the problem is most of these ideas are just ideas and not even a stable built reality yet, and the company themselves do not have confidence in it to use for their own retail website (autoaccessorystore.com) or their wholesale distribution website (mimousa.com) where they offer Wholesale Drop Ship Auto Parts & products. People mostly fail from their customer service, Manufacturing and shipping. Read this post

As of 08/05/09 these sites are as you see them in the images, on another platform and not on the shopping cart technology they are trying to develop and profit from. On or about May 2009 this issue was challenged by Gro project users (Business Owners) and the answer from a shopping cart elite owner had gotten redirected with an excuse that was copied and can be read extensively in our FORUM.

If you sell Aftermarket Car Accessories, Performance Car Parts, Marine & Boating Equipment or are just looking for a Wholesale Parts Distributor or Shopping Cart Platforms for your new or existing Business then sign up on our FORUM. We are putting together Industry contacts lists and information for your business to further succeed.

Now we are not completely knocking down the above company or information but from a business management standpoint this company has a “get them in and out”  reputation and thinking process with no control and a cloudy business plan. Like most MLM and Ponzi schemes there is a sense of hope being sold to people with only Projected large returns back as long as you invest now.

You can use many shopping carts and have certain aspects changed for conversions and optimization. CRE Loaded has a great shopping cart and is PCI Compliant, it also has the ability to make these changes with ease. Join our FORUM to find out more or add your own ideas and experiences for others to learn from.

Comments on this article can be done if our FORUM.

Gro-Pro

Below is the copied text of a sales ad for Shopping cart elite from Craigslist.org. I see this add all over the country and I am curious how many of you got sucked in by this ad? It shows that this is an unbeatable deal, you must not pass it up, what you’re going to get, and how cheap it sounds. The reality is, it is a dream being sold to you. Like most craigslist.org frauds they prey on the people that do not know and are looking for that next BIG thing out there. Gro Project Venture, Mimousa, Setuno inc  and Shopping cart elite is not the answer to your prayers. Below I will break down all the text with red fonts to explain what is real or not. We have 4 images copied from this craigslist.org ad for you to see. THE AD WILL MOST LIKELY CHANGE AFTER THIS BLOG POST IS OUT THERE. You can also comment in OUR FORUM on this subject as well as all the others that are there. Plus you get freebies about shopping carts, SEO, LPO, SEM and social networking as they evolve from members. Its Free to join and there are no ads anywhere. Enjoy the reading below.

HERE IS THE URL TO AD ON CRAIGSLIST: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bfs/1272117471.html

“Contact us now: (800)403-8117 to speak about your options
OUR 30 SECOND SALES PITCH
Includes website design (no logo) and training”   THE DESIGN IS COOKIE CUTTER TEMPLATE LIKE THE REST OF THEM, THE LOGO IS AN EXTRA FEE. $$$
“All products will be drop shipped, you will not stock anything. The supplier will ship directly to your customers. “
“Buy Now and we will contact you within 24 hours to start your business! We will execute your business plan 100% to your satisfaction.”  THEY HOPE YOU ARE NOT PICKY & HAVE A LOW SATISFACTION LEVEL
“30 days money back guaranteed if you are not satisfied with our service or business plan. YOU HAVE NO RISK, WE GUARANTEE IT .”  30 DAYS FROM NOW YOU WILL BE IN TRAINING CLASSES THAT ARE 3 MONTHS LONG SO THERE GOES THE MONEY BACK GAURENTEE
“State of the art Shopping Cart Elite software is used to operate this website .” STILL IN DEVELOPMENT AND PRE BETA STAGES MAY NOT BE PCI COMPLIANT
“Build a loyal customer base that will buy your products on a constant basis
Recurring Hosting and License Fee from Shopping Cart Elite (www.shoppingcartelite.com) is $99 per month”  SO YOU HAVE A FEE OF $299 + $99X12 = $1487.00? PLUS A LOGO FEE THAT IS NOT SPECIFIED. SEEMS A BIT HIGH FOR 1 SITE. ASK ABOUT THE 5 SITES OFFER FOR $1200 COMPLETE WITH LOGO AND EXTRA FEES
“Short Term revenue potential ranges from $100,000USD – $400,000USD annually depending on the conversions.”  ASK FOR 3 VERIFIABLE REFERENCES. DEPENDING ON CONVERSIONS? SO THE REALITY IS, YOU NEED TO MAKE MONTHLY GROSS SALES BETWEEN $8,333.33 & $33,333.33 AND DAILY BETWEEN $277.76 & $1,111.10 NOW I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NOT POSSIBLE BUT THIS WOULD BE 1-2 YEARS FROM NOW. ASK THEM TO SHOW YOU ANY SITE ON THEIR PLATFORM PERFORMING AT THIS LEVEL.

Profit Margins 8% – 30% on brand name products, 16% – 50% on non-popular brand name and private labeled products  TAKE THE ABOVE “POTENTIAL GROSS SALES” NUMBERS AND DO THE MATH 8%-50%?. YOUR REALISTIC DAILY NET INCOME IS ONLY GOING TO BE 5% TO 10% AFTER ALL THE FEES AND GARBAGE IS ADDED ON. SO HOW MUCH ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR? $13.85 TO $55.55 PER DAY!

QUICK OVERVIEW
eCommerce retailers are entrepreneurs who deal with distributors or manufacturers to retail products to the end consumers on the Internet. Niche market retailer is when an entrepreneur starts a dedicated website specializing in a specific target market. Using a specific domain name and our specific business plan, as a retailer you will target a specific group of people and win their business. As a niche market retailer you will rank above your competitors (if any) and dominate the market share for your niche.  THERE IS COMPETITION AND PLENTY OF IT JUST WITHIN GRO PROJECT. THEIR 6 “BODY KIT” SITES 4-6 “AIR INTAKE” SITES WHO KNOWS HOW MANY DASH TRIM AND STEERING WHEEL COVER SITES. AS YOU GET INVOLVED IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR YOU WHEN YOU REALIZE THE COMPITITION. AS FOR NON RELATED GRO PROJECT SITES YOU WILL ONLY GAIN A PERCENTAGE OF THAT CUSTOMER BASE “NOT DOMINATE” IT.  

Selecting a niche has to be a smart decision because you may not have a supplier, best price, competitiveness, etc. This is why we offer you this package to help you make your decision and execute your business plan. THIS IS ALL PREDETERMENED WITHIN GRO PROJECT ALREADY.

WHAT DO YOU GET?

An exclusive website for a particular niche, after the sale we will not sell another website for that niche
COMPLETE DESIGN AND WALK THROUGH OF THE SHOPPING CART ELITE SOFTWARE (www.shoppingcartelite.com)
Suppliers who will drop ship the products for you (Learn what Drop Shipping is) OVERALL THIS IS MIMO USA RELATED SUPPLIERS & CAN ONLY PURCHASE FROM THEM.
A business plan that will take you from startup to a successful company
One click full data pre-load on your website.
CASE STUDIES

custommaxima.com case study Case study about a niche car market  I WILL POST ABOUT THESE SITES AND THERE CASE STUDIES ANOTHER TIME, BUT IT IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS

remusexhaustshop.com case study Case study about a niche brand market  NOT OPERATING ON THEIR PLATFORM.

CRITICAL REQUIREMENTS WE ADDRESS

Shopping Cart Elite was specifically designed for retailers to have a smooth time running their online business. See all the Shopping Cart Elite Features
Advanced SEO technology (shopping cart) in which you can be fully confident that it will deliver traffic to your website
Sophisticated back office to manage products on your website in an advanced format (such as products with options or products mapped to a car application, etc.)
Back office that does order managements, order tracking, returns, accounting, etc.
Data for your store (automatically synced with your store)
Suppliers who will give you data and discounts
User friendly website functionality with an excellent website design
Long Term Potential:

Getting involved in wholesale and becoming a certified Supplier to the Shopping Cart Elite community, revenue potential ranges from $400,000USD – $1,000,000USD annually and building a network of sites concentrated towards the same market place and dominate the market share. NEED I BOTHER ON THIS ONE? YOU GET THE IDEA HERE.

SUPPLIER LIST

www.mimousa.com

www.streamlineddropship.com

www.norcaldropship.com  THE 3 ABOVE ARE CONTROLLED AND PROFITED BY MIMO USA

www.turn14.com  THIS ONE IS AN INDEPENDENT DISTRIBUTOR THAT MIMO BUYS FROM WWW.JSCSPEED.COM

A FEW WEBSITES THAT WE HELPED START

www.300zxtuner.com

www.bodykitexpert.com

www.hhraccessory.com

www.f150mania.com

WHY SO CHEAP FOR SUCH A PROFITABLE BUSINESS?  BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD LIKE MOST SCAMS OUT THERE?

The business needs to expand. It’s a brand new store with a design, data and suppliers. You own the business but you don’t own the Shopping Cart Elite source code or software. You will be licensing the software and hosting your business from Shopping Cart Elite directly. The onetime fee that you are paying is for the website design, product data, business plan and supplier referral only.

The website will be valued 10 – 20 times more than what we are selling it for after a client spends 2-4 months working on it. ASK FOR THE BASIS OF THIS ESTIMATE WITH SUPPORTING VERIFIABLE EXAMPLES Certainly we can do all of the work ourselves, however we are not machines and can’t do everything. We own several successful businesses and we are now concentrated on technology and education, not product selling or customer service. BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS PROFIABLE AND EASY AS THEY SAY Thus we are willing to teach you how to operate this business and gain you as a client for us and Shopping Cart Elite.

WHAT YOU DON’T GET!

This is not a get rich quick scheme. This will require a minimum of 10-20 hours of work per week for a minimum period of 2 months before seeing results. It will take 4-6 months to see sufficient revenue from this business. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT? 10-20 TIMES MORE VALUED IN 2-4 MONTHS? CONTRADICTIONS NOW?
This is not a scheme, LIES where we sell you an online website that does not work just for the sake of making a few hundred dollars. We are an agent for Shopping Cart Elite MLM and our goal is to make you a successful company. If we sign you up and you quit in 2 months than we will fail at what we are doing.  BUT WILL NOT REFUND YOUR MONEY & ANOTHER PERSON WILL PICK UP FROM THE WORK YOU DID We want you to make money and succeed, so DON’T CONSIDER THIS A ONE TIME SALE. We will do everything in our power to get you to succeed, until you do succeed.

THIS WHOLE THING IS CALLED “SITE BUILDERS” “MLM” IT IS A SCHEME TO TARGET YOU ON PURCHASING A COMPLETED WEBSTORE SITE. WHILE YOU ARE BEING TRAINED YOU WILL REALIZE YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO REBUILD THE STORE YOU JUST PAID FOR AND PAY EVERY MONTH FOR.  IT WAS PUT TOGETHER QUICKLY BY PEOPLE LIKE YOUR SELF AS A WAY TO KEEP MEMBERS GOING THAT ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY AT THIS TIME. ITS NOT REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU STAY.

Thanks, Good Luck from Gro-Pro  

Porn Comes to GRO 

Unbelievable! Who is the Brains on this? The Aftermarket Car Accessory Market is now in competition with the PORN industry. Basically if you are using shopping cart elite software to sell aftermarket car accessories, performance car parts, wholesale automotive car parts distributor or plan on taking the chance on the site builder program and franchise you are all using the same cookie cutter eCommerce template. There are a lot better targets to go after then this one. Was anyone thinking here? Besides the Board of Directors & the accountant.

On a funny note:

The GRO Project Venture training classes should be interesting on this subject. Keyword research, persona/sales copy,  article marketing and social networking should go real well. Who’s the freak mentor that has to show them these webex training class meetings?  I could just wonder who is the “gro certified distributor” That has to prepare and enter the data.

All the religious folks are going to love this.

Look at the images, we didn’t want to copy and use this text on our Blog. Commenting is in OUR FORUM

Thanks & Good Luck, Gro-Pro

Yes it’s true! It’s called Backtracking & Recovery. By the looks of things around here (Plus the emails we got) we have made a difference already.

1. Free Gro Project Venture Fees Waived (with reimbursements?)
2. Free SSL’s for Every Site. (ssl was always included, Creative accounting on this idea)

Just a note of Legal Advice, Get everything in Writing (not by twitter or emails) and Confirm what the future holds on these subjects.

1. What are the FEES going to be exactly when re-introduced?
2. What is the SSL actually going to cost me upon request?
3. Is there an addendum to our user agreements?
4. Will you be mailing (usps) this out to everyone?

Remember this is your business obligation to always legally confirm the changes being made to your business and get them on paper. You signed a “Legal Document” (user agreement for GRO) for your business (or personally) and you are legally held accountable as a Business owner for knowing what you are doing.

We will be posting more objectives to  Gro Project Venture & Shopping cart elite as we go along here. This is only to inform the public that you are being sold a “DREAM” at this point. Anyone who has been sold into “GRO Project Venture” or “Shopping cart elite” in 2009 Should Request a Refund. The program in 2008 was under $500.00 with four niche sites and one general store included (5 sites in all). Most of them where not even charged at all, but they got promised the world to them. Most of them have realized the deal now and left. The point is FREE is FREE and make sure, whether you are a 1 year in user or a 1 month new user think of what you are doing, get local legal advice, a local credible accountant and get friendly with your banks branch manager.

Thanks & Good Luck,  Gro-Pro

Commenting is in OUR FORUM