GroProject Scam – The Opinions & Views of Past & Present Users

Below is the copied text of a sales ad for Shopping cart elite from Craigslist.org. I see this add all over the country and I am curious how many of you got sucked in by this ad? It shows that this is an unbeatable deal, you must not pass it up, what you’re going to get, and how cheap it sounds. The reality is, it is a dream being sold to you. Like most craigslist.org frauds they prey on the people that do not know and are looking for that next BIG thing out there. Gro Project Venture, Mimousa, Setuno inc  and Shopping cart elite is not the answer to your prayers. Below I will break down all the text with red fonts to explain what is real or not. We have 4 images copied from this craigslist.org ad for you to see. THE AD WILL MOST LIKELY CHANGE AFTER THIS BLOG POST IS OUT THERE. You can also comment in OUR FORUM on this subject as well as all the others that are there. Plus you get freebies about shopping carts, SEO, LPO, SEM and social networking as they evolve from members. Its Free to join and there are no ads anywhere. Enjoy the reading below.

HERE IS THE URL TO AD ON CRAIGSLIST: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bfs/1272117471.html

“Contact us now: (800)403-8117 to speak about your options
OUR 30 SECOND SALES PITCH
Includes website design (no logo) and training”   THE DESIGN IS COOKIE CUTTER TEMPLATE LIKE THE REST OF THEM, THE LOGO IS AN EXTRA FEE. $$$
“All products will be drop shipped, you will not stock anything. The supplier will ship directly to your customers. “
“Buy Now and we will contact you within 24 hours to start your business! We will execute your business plan 100% to your satisfaction.”  THEY HOPE YOU ARE NOT PICKY & HAVE A LOW SATISFACTION LEVEL
“30 days money back guaranteed if you are not satisfied with our service or business plan. YOU HAVE NO RISK, WE GUARANTEE IT .”  30 DAYS FROM NOW YOU WILL BE IN TRAINING CLASSES THAT ARE 3 MONTHS LONG SO THERE GOES THE MONEY BACK GAURENTEE
“State of the art Shopping Cart Elite software is used to operate this website .” STILL IN DEVELOPMENT AND PRE BETA STAGES MAY NOT BE PCI COMPLIANT
“Build a loyal customer base that will buy your products on a constant basis
Recurring Hosting and License Fee from Shopping Cart Elite (www.shoppingcartelite.com) is $99 per month”  SO YOU HAVE A FEE OF $299 + $99X12 = $1487.00? PLUS A LOGO FEE THAT IS NOT SPECIFIED. SEEMS A BIT HIGH FOR 1 SITE. ASK ABOUT THE 5 SITES OFFER FOR $1200 COMPLETE WITH LOGO AND EXTRA FEES
“Short Term revenue potential ranges from $100,000USD – $400,000USD annually depending on the conversions.”  ASK FOR 3 VERIFIABLE REFERENCES. DEPENDING ON CONVERSIONS? SO THE REALITY IS, YOU NEED TO MAKE MONTHLY GROSS SALES BETWEEN $8,333.33 & $33,333.33 AND DAILY BETWEEN $277.76 & $1,111.10 NOW I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NOT POSSIBLE BUT THIS WOULD BE 1-2 YEARS FROM NOW. ASK THEM TO SHOW YOU ANY SITE ON THEIR PLATFORM PERFORMING AT THIS LEVEL.

Profit Margins 8% – 30% on brand name products, 16% – 50% on non-popular brand name and private labeled products  TAKE THE ABOVE “POTENTIAL GROSS SALES” NUMBERS AND DO THE MATH 8%-50%?. YOUR REALISTIC DAILY NET INCOME IS ONLY GOING TO BE 5% TO 10% AFTER ALL THE FEES AND GARBAGE IS ADDED ON. SO HOW MUCH ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR? $13.85 TO $55.55 PER DAY!

QUICK OVERVIEW
eCommerce retailers are entrepreneurs who deal with distributors or manufacturers to retail products to the end consumers on the Internet. Niche market retailer is when an entrepreneur starts a dedicated website specializing in a specific target market. Using a specific domain name and our specific business plan, as a retailer you will target a specific group of people and win their business. As a niche market retailer you will rank above your competitors (if any) and dominate the market share for your niche.  THERE IS COMPETITION AND PLENTY OF IT JUST WITHIN GRO PROJECT. THEIR 6 “BODY KIT” SITES 4-6 “AIR INTAKE” SITES WHO KNOWS HOW MANY DASH TRIM AND STEERING WHEEL COVER SITES. AS YOU GET INVOLVED IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR YOU WHEN YOU REALIZE THE COMPITITION. AS FOR NON RELATED GRO PROJECT SITES YOU WILL ONLY GAIN A PERCENTAGE OF THAT CUSTOMER BASE “NOT DOMINATE” IT.  

Selecting a niche has to be a smart decision because you may not have a supplier, best price, competitiveness, etc. This is why we offer you this package to help you make your decision and execute your business plan. THIS IS ALL PREDETERMENED WITHIN GRO PROJECT ALREADY.

WHAT DO YOU GET?

An exclusive website for a particular niche, after the sale we will not sell another website for that niche
COMPLETE DESIGN AND WALK THROUGH OF THE SHOPPING CART ELITE SOFTWARE (www.shoppingcartelite.com)
Suppliers who will drop ship the products for you (Learn what Drop Shipping is) OVERALL THIS IS MIMO USA RELATED SUPPLIERS & CAN ONLY PURCHASE FROM THEM.
A business plan that will take you from startup to a successful company
One click full data pre-load on your website.
CASE STUDIES

custommaxima.com case study Case study about a niche car market  I WILL POST ABOUT THESE SITES AND THERE CASE STUDIES ANOTHER TIME, BUT IT IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS

remusexhaustshop.com case study Case study about a niche brand market  NOT OPERATING ON THEIR PLATFORM.

CRITICAL REQUIREMENTS WE ADDRESS

Shopping Cart Elite was specifically designed for retailers to have a smooth time running their online business. See all the Shopping Cart Elite Features
Advanced SEO technology (shopping cart) in which you can be fully confident that it will deliver traffic to your website
Sophisticated back office to manage products on your website in an advanced format (such as products with options or products mapped to a car application, etc.)
Back office that does order managements, order tracking, returns, accounting, etc.
Data for your store (automatically synced with your store)
Suppliers who will give you data and discounts
User friendly website functionality with an excellent website design
Long Term Potential:

Getting involved in wholesale and becoming a certified Supplier to the Shopping Cart Elite community, revenue potential ranges from $400,000USD – $1,000,000USD annually and building a network of sites concentrated towards the same market place and dominate the market share. NEED I BOTHER ON THIS ONE? YOU GET THE IDEA HERE.

SUPPLIER LIST

www.mimousa.com

www.streamlineddropship.com

www.norcaldropship.com  THE 3 ABOVE ARE CONTROLLED AND PROFITED BY MIMO USA

www.turn14.com  THIS ONE IS AN INDEPENDENT DISTRIBUTOR THAT MIMO BUYS FROM WWW.JSCSPEED.COM

A FEW WEBSITES THAT WE HELPED START

www.300zxtuner.com

www.bodykitexpert.com

www.hhraccessory.com

www.f150mania.com

WHY SO CHEAP FOR SUCH A PROFITABLE BUSINESS?  BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD LIKE MOST SCAMS OUT THERE?

The business needs to expand. It’s a brand new store with a design, data and suppliers. You own the business but you don’t own the Shopping Cart Elite source code or software. You will be licensing the software and hosting your business from Shopping Cart Elite directly. The onetime fee that you are paying is for the website design, product data, business plan and supplier referral only.

The website will be valued 10 – 20 times more than what we are selling it for after a client spends 2-4 months working on it. ASK FOR THE BASIS OF THIS ESTIMATE WITH SUPPORTING VERIFIABLE EXAMPLES Certainly we can do all of the work ourselves, however we are not machines and can’t do everything. We own several successful businesses and we are now concentrated on technology and education, not product selling or customer service. BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS PROFIABLE AND EASY AS THEY SAY Thus we are willing to teach you how to operate this business and gain you as a client for us and Shopping Cart Elite.

WHAT YOU DON’T GET!

This is not a get rich quick scheme. This will require a minimum of 10-20 hours of work per week for a minimum period of 2 months before seeing results. It will take 4-6 months to see sufficient revenue from this business. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT? 10-20 TIMES MORE VALUED IN 2-4 MONTHS? CONTRADICTIONS NOW?
This is not a scheme, LIES where we sell you an online website that does not work just for the sake of making a few hundred dollars. We are an agent for Shopping Cart Elite MLM and our goal is to make you a successful company. If we sign you up and you quit in 2 months than we will fail at what we are doing.  BUT WILL NOT REFUND YOUR MONEY & ANOTHER PERSON WILL PICK UP FROM THE WORK YOU DID We want you to make money and succeed, so DON’T CONSIDER THIS A ONE TIME SALE. We will do everything in our power to get you to succeed, until you do succeed.

THIS WHOLE THING IS CALLED “SITE BUILDERS” “MLM” IT IS A SCHEME TO TARGET YOU ON PURCHASING A COMPLETED WEBSTORE SITE. WHILE YOU ARE BEING TRAINED YOU WILL REALIZE YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO REBUILD THE STORE YOU JUST PAID FOR AND PAY EVERY MONTH FOR.  IT WAS PUT TOGETHER QUICKLY BY PEOPLE LIKE YOUR SELF AS A WAY TO KEEP MEMBERS GOING THAT ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY AT THIS TIME. ITS NOT REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU STAY.

Thanks, Good Luck from Gro-Pro